What to do
Enter the Defias Hideout and follow the trail of homeless to the Deadmines dungeon. Enter the Deadmines dungeon and use the Incense Burner to see into the past.
The quest giver's words
This incense will put your body and mind in a deep meditative state. Once the trance begins you will be pulled into the spirit world. Do not fight the trance once it has begun, <name>. Allow the spirits to show you what they know.
You must leave now. Go to the Deadmines, a place which I am told holds great significance in the history of Westfall. Once inside, use the incense.
You may enter the Deadmines through the old farmhouse south of here. Follow the homeless.
Return to Gryan with your discovery.
Completion
WHAT? VanCleef had a daughter?
Category: Westfall.
What you need
- Handed to you when you accept it
- Incense Burner
The reward
No item reward.
- Money
- 7s
- Experience
- 1,050
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at level 20 or lower; less above
By character level
Level Experience Share 12–20 1,050 100% 21 850 80% 22 625 60% 23 420 40% 24 210 20% 25–89 110 10% 90 none level cap The game pays the full figure up to five levels above the quest, then 20 % less for each level more, down to a tenth, and none at the level cap. A bonus of your own (a guild perk, a holiday) comes on top.
Reputation
- Stormwind +250
Who it is for
- Faction
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- Race
- any race
- Class
- any class
- Level
- quest level 15, requires level 12
- Profession
- none
- Repeats
- once only
The chain
Before this
- Secrets Revealed #26319 · any one of these
After this
- Rise of the Brotherhood #26322
Where it starts and ends
- Starts at
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- Thoralius the Wise npc · Westfall at 0.430, 0.650
- Hand in to
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- Marshal Gryan Stoutmantle npc · Westfall at 0.563, 0.475
- pick up
- turn in
These two markers are the quest giver's and the hand-in's own positions – not where anybody was standing. The recorded positions are further down, under the community data.
Relevant locations
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Westfall
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Thoralius the Wise
Starts the quest · 43.0, 65.0
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Marshal Gryan Stoutmantle
Hand the quest in · 56.3, 47.5
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The pins are the game's own map markers; the coordinates are the game's 0–100, as
/way takes them.
What players recorded
Everything below this line is a different kind of knowledge from everything above it. Above: what the quest is, the same on every realm. Below: what actually happened when people played it, uploaded by them, with the number of runs printed against every figure. It is an observation, not a fact about the quest.
Nobody has completed this quest with telemetry on yet, so there is no timing. Everything below is drawn straight from the 0 recorded attempts the hub has.
How precise this guide is
Early guide Built from 0 runs by 0 players – low confidence. Every upload of this quest sharpens it: the hotspots tighten, the order and the timings settle, and the parts below unlock as the sample grows.
- Where to go – pick-up, objectives and hand-in needs one recorded run not yet
- Typical time and objective order – median and middle half needs 3 completed runs (now 0) not yet
- Tips – what most players do needs 5 runs (now 0) not yet
- Where players die – death hotspots on the map needs 5 characters from at least 2 different people (now 0 from 0) not yet
Timings
Based on 0 completed runs. Computed on this page; the analyser has not published this quest yet.
Same 0 runs.
Counting every recorded attempt, finished or not.
0 tracked kills.
The route
An early route: drawn from the first runs and sharper with every upload. Pick-up, hand-in and the objective hotspots are where the quest is, so they are shown from the first run.
Map coordinates are the addon's own 0–1 zone coordinates (Westfall), origin top-left, x to the right and y downward. Drag the zone map to pan, ctrl/⌘ + scroll or the buttons to zoom; the grid lines are tenths of the zone.
- Pick up
- Not recorded yet.
- Turn in
- Not recorded yet.
- Deaths during this quest
- None recorded – nobody died doing this.
Objectives, in the order players do them
No objective progress has been uploaded for this quest yet. Once somebody plays it with the addon on, the objectives and their hotspots appear here automatically.
Tips
No tips yet – they need a handful of runs before they say anything true.
Recorded runs
No runs recorded yet.
Community notes
Nobody has added a note to this quest yet.